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Romoss Sense 8PS Pro
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Romoss Sense 8PS Pro
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30000 mAh, 111 W*h, Li-Pol
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USB A 2, maximum 22.5 W, USB type C 1, maximum 30 W
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Romoss Sense 8P Plus
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Romoss Sense 8P Plus
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Romoss PEA30
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Romoss PEA30
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Mophie Powerstation Ultra 30000mAh Portable Battery Charger wit
Contains a 30,000mAh internal battery: the battery cells hold their charge so you can use it when you need it most.
Up to 3 full charges for your cell phone: Gives you enough power to charge your cell phone several times, without worrying about the red battery signal appearing.
Charge multiple devices at once: Charge three devices simultaneously using the USB-A ports and USB-C port.
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Energizer 30000mAh 225W Ultra-High Output Fast Charging Battery
【Extra High Capacity】30,000mAh capacity that offers up to 108 hours of extra screen time for a standard smartphone.
【Triple Outputs】 Triple output includes 2 x USB-A, 1 x USB-C , perfect for sharing with friends.
【20W USB-C PD】USB-C Power Delivery provides up to 20W fast charge for the new iPhones and up to 18W fast charge for compatible Android devices, from 0% to 50% in only 30 minutes.
【22.5W Smart Fast Charge】Smart 22.5W USB-A output provides fast charge from 0-80% in 35 minutes for Samsung, Google Pixel, and other compatible Android devices.
【Dual Inputs】 1 USB-C fast recharge and 1 micro-USB input that can recharge based on your convenience.
【LCD Indicator】The LCD battery life indicat>>>>>
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Energizer 30000mAh High Capacity 30W Ultra-High Output 6 Output
【High-Capacity Power Bank】30,000mAh high capacity can charge your smartphone up to 108 hours.
【Fast Charging】30W USB-C Power Delivery provides fast charge for the new iPhones, tablets, MacBook, other USB-C devices.
【Six Outputs】4 USB-A ports and 2 USB-C ports that allow you to charge multiple devices simultaneously.
【USB-C PD input】The USB-C PD input provides faster recharge time for your convenience.
【LCD Indicator】The LCD battery life indicator shows the charging status and battery level at a quick glance.
【PowerSafe Management】PowerSafe Management guarantees against short circuit, overcurrent, overcharge and overdischarge for your power bank and devices.
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ROMOSS Power Bank 30000mAh PD30Wand 20WType C External Battery Banks with
【30W Input & Output Fast Charge】Sense8ps pro has been upgraded on the basis of the Type-C only support or 18W input function on the market. Powerful 30W Two-way Fast Charging brings iPhone13 Pro max back from 0% to 55% in as quickly as 30mins, fully recharge within 5.5 hours With 30W Type-C port. 【2022 Version 22.5W Fast Charging】With the upgraded 22.5W PD3.0 & QC4.0 fast charge technologies, your iPhone13 can be charged up to 55% in just 30 minutes. 【30000mAh Power for Days】:30000mAh power bank Sense8F with high capacity can charging for iphone 13/12/11 above 6 times.
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ROMOSS 60000mAh Power Bank30000mAh 18W PD Power Bank 30000mAh 225W Battery
【30000mAh Power for Days】:30000mAh power bank Sense8F with high capacity can charging for iphone 13/12/11 above 6 times. 【3-Outputs & 3-Inputs】:ROMOSS 30000mAh portable charger can fast charge 3 devices at the same time.Featuring USB-C In & Out port to perfectly fit your new iPhones,iPad and other USB-C devices.
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ROMOSS 40000mAh Power Bank18W and 30000mah 30w PD USB C Fast Charging Port
【PEA40-Huge Capacity】The huge 40000mah capacity supports 8 times recharge for iPhone 11, 8.2 times recharge for Samsung S10, etc. The long-last power bank holds the power for weeks, ideal to take it for a trip, music festival, hiking and more. 【PEA40-18W MAX PD 3-Output & 2-Input】 Charges QC-support devices up to 80% in just 35 minutes, Charge 3 devices simultaneously at maximum speed up to 3A. Only takes 16 hours to fully recharged itself with a 18W wall charger(Not included). 【PEA30-30000mAh High Capacity】 30000mAh USB C battery pack provide 7days of worry-free power to provide more than 6 charges to iPhone 13 Pro max, 4 charges to iPad Pro, or 7charges to GalaxyS21 Ultra.
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ROMOSS 30000mAh Power Bank LT30 2 Outputs & 2 Inputs Portable Charger Type
Precise Power Display: The digital LED indicator displays precise battery percentage. Adequate Power: the 30,000mAh capacity gives 4 full charges to Nintendo Switch, 12.6 to iPhone 8, 7.2 to Samsung S9, and 4 full charges to iPad mini 4. A Must-have for unlimited gamers, for camping, hiking and all kinds of fests. 2 Inputs: 5V 2.1A Micro USB and Type-C inputs help you recharge your power bank quickly 2 Outputs: Charging Speed Up to 5V 2.1A. Help You Charging Your Phone Quickly The built-in intelligent safety system ensures complete protection for you and your devices, including over-heat, over-charge, over-current, over-discharge and short-circuit protection. CABLE IS NOT INCLUDED
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ROMOSS 30000mAh Power Bank for iPhone with 30W /20W Type C PD Fast Charge
【30W Input & Output Fast Charge】Sense8ps pro has been upgraded on the basis of the Type-C only support or 18W input function on the market. Powerful 30W Two-way Fast Charging brings iPhone13 Pro max back from 0% to 55% in as quickly as 30mins, fully recharge within 5.5 hours With 30W Type-C port. 【QC22.5W & PD20W Rapid Charging】Powerful 20W PD type c outputs allow the battery pack to deliver a 20W fast charging speed to your device with a C to l i g h t n in g fast charging cable(Not inculded), charge your new iPhone 13 from 0 to 60% in as quickly as 30 minutes. 【30000mah Ultra-High Capacity 】The Romoss 30000mAh power bank provides 7.1 charges for iPhone 11, 6.3 full charges
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ROMOSS 30000mAh Power Bank 18WPD30W Battery Pack Cell Phone Charger Batter
SENSE8+-18W Rapid Recharge 3-Input: It only takes 11 hours to fully recharge the 30,000mAh power bank with an 18W PD adaptor(Not inculde). Featuring 3-input: Micro-USB, l i g h t n i n g and Unique USB Type-C ports provides high convenience of 【PEA30-30W Two-way USB C Fast Charge】 PEA30 power bank is different from the type-C fast charge on the market that only supports input or 18W input. Powerful Type-C 30W Input& Output for exhilarating charging speeds, 2-3x faster than the traditional powerbank, do you a great favor in an emergency. 【30000mAh High Capacity】 30000mAh USB C battery pack provide 7days of worry-free power to provide more than 6 charges to iPhone 13 Pro max, 4
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ROMOSS 30000mah Power Bank
1 Week of Worry-free Power: the 30,000mAh capacity gives 12.6 full charges to iPhone 8, 7.2 to Samsung S9, and 4 full charges to iPad mini 4. 18W Rapid Recharge 3-Input: It only takes 11 hours to fully recharge 30w Fast charge for iPhone13 Pro max back from 0% to 55% in 30mins, fully recharge within 5.5 hours with 30W-Type-C port A Must-have for unlimited gamers, for camping, hiking and all kinds of fests.
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ROMOSS 30000mAh 30W &225W USB C Portable Charger Power Bank withFast Charg
【PEA30-30W Two-way USB C Fast Charge】 PEA30 power bank is different from the type-C fast charge on the market that only supports input or 18W input. Powerful Type-C 30W Input& Output for exhilarating charging speeds, 2-3x faster than the traditional powerbank, do you a great favor in an emergency. 【2022 Version 22.5W Fast Charging】With the upgraded 22.5W PD3.0 & QC4.0 fast charge technologies, your iPhone13 can be charged up to 55% in just 30 minutes. 【30000mAh High Capacity】 30000mAh USB C battery pack provide 7days of worry-free power to provide more than 6 charges to iPhone 13 Pro max, 4 charges to iPad Pro, or 7charges to GalaxyS21 Ultra. Keep your Phones, iPad, Fans,LED
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ROMOSS 225W Power Bank 60000mah and 30000mah for iPhone and Outdoors Campi
【PEA60-Ultra-High Capacity】:The massive 60000mAh power bank provides more than 12.6 full charges for iPhone 14, 10.4 full charges to Samsung S22, 5.2 full charges to iPad Pro. almost 21 full charges for iPhone and android, more than 12 charges for Huawei P10 (Supports Huawei scp 22.5w fast charging). 【PEA60-4 Output and 3 Input】:This portable battery pack has 4 outputs for different devices. Two 5V/2.4A USB ports and one Type C port and one USB fast charging output port allow you to charge several devices like iPad pro, Nintendo Switch, phone simultaneously. With Micro USB, l i g h t n i n g and type-C input, more charging options are available. 【2022 Version 22.5W Fast
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ROMOSS 18W 30000mAh Power Bank
Built-in Micro-USB, L i g h t n i n g and USB Type-C, 2 USB and 1 type outputs C can quickly charge 3 devices simultaneously 10000mAh Portable Battery supports all fast charge technologies, utilizing the PD technology to quick charge and recharge.Type-C fast charge for iPhone 12 to 60% in just 30 minutes. 18W Type-C fast fully recharging only takes 3.5Hrs. It only takes 11 hours to fully recharge the 30,000mAh power bank with an 18W PD adaptor(Not inculde). Featuring 3-input: Micro-USB, l i g h t n i n g and Unique USB Type-C ports provides high convenience of recharging this power bank with your iphone or Andriod cables.
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Energizer 30000mAh Power Bank LCD Display Portable Charger USB-C Input Bat
【High Capacity】30,000mAh capacity that offers up to 108 hours of extra screen time for a standard smartphone. 【Triple Outputs】Design with 2 x USB-A and 1 x USB-C ports that can charge up to 3 devices simultaneously. 【Rapid Charging】USB-C Output supports up to 15W charging for your devices, efficiently charge up your devices wherever you go! 【Triple Inputs】You can recharge through Micro-USB or USB-C based on your convenience. 【LCD Indicator】The LCD battery life indicator shows the charging status and battery level at a quick glance.
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Baseus Power Bank 65W 30000mAh Portable Laptop Charger Fast Charging USB C
【65W PD Fast Charge】Recommended by the well-known media Polygon as a portable battery for ASUS ROG ALLY. 65W USB-C port provides enough power to charge a laptop at full speed, this power bank charge a macbook pro 13” from 0% to 50% in just 56 mins with the included USB-C to C cable, perfect for bussiness trip or outside. 【5-output+3-input】T
his multi-functional portable charger power bank can charge 3-5 devices simultaneously, the USB-C port support input 60w max, use a pd 60w wall charger(not included) to full recharge this 30000mAh power bank in only 2.5 hours. 65W Laptop Fast Charging: This USB C charger has a maximum 65W single-port output, a USB C fast charger that will get
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Baseus Power Bank 65W 30000mAh Charging Station 100W
This bundle contains 2 items: Baseus Power Bank 65W 30000mAh & Baseus Charging Station 100W Package Content: 1*Baseus charging station 100W, 1*Baseus power bank 65W 30000mAh, 1*Type-C to Type-C fast charging cable
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Baseus Portable Laptop Charger 30000mAh 65W Bundle Laptop Power Bank 20000
【Recommended by Forbes Vetted】 "I like the stylish yet functional industrial design of this charger. It was easy to carry around while charging multiple devices quickly." said an editor at Forbes Vetted. Baseus Blade Laptop Power Bank has received a Best of designation from Forbes Vetted. 【Lighter and Thinner Design】This laptop power bank is only 0.7-inch and thinner than a laptop. As a high-density version, the Baseus portable charger uses silicon carbon battery technology, which makes it 18% lighter and 20% smaller than the old version. The thin and light design allows it to slide easily into your bag and hit the road. 【100W Power Delivery】Crafted with 2 PD USB-C ports
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Baseus Portable Laptop Charger 30000mAh 65W & 225W
【65W PD Fast Charge】Recommended by the well-known media Polygon as a portable battery for ASUS ROG ALLY. 65W USB-C port provides enough power to charge a laptop at full speed, this power bank charge a macbook pro 13” from 0% to 50% in just 56 mins with the included USB-C to C cable, perfect for bussiness trip or outside. 【5-output+3-input】T
his multi-functional portable charger power bank can charge 3-5 devices simultaneously, the USB-C port support input 60w max, use a pd 60w wall charger(not included) to full recharge this 30000mAh power bank in only 2.5 hours. 【Super Large Capacity】30000mAh battery pack capacity provide 7 day of worry-free power to charges 6 times for
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Baseus Portable Charger 30000mAh Power Bank 65W Battery Pack Smart Digital
【65W PD Fast Charge】Recommended by the well-known media Polygon as a portable battery for ASUS ROG ALLY. 65W USB-C port provides enough power to charge a laptop at full speed, this power bank charge a macbook pro 13” from 0% to 50% in just 56 mins with the included USB-C to C cable, perfect for bussiness trip or outside. 【5-output+3-input】T
his multi-functional portable charger power bank can charge 3-5 devices simultaneously, the USB-C port support input 60w max, use a pd 60w wall charger(not included) to full recharge this 30000mAh power bank in only 2.5 hours. 【Super Large Capacity】30000mAh battery pack capacity provide 7 day of worry-free power to charges 6 times for
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Baseus Portable Charger 30000mAh Power Bank 65W Battery Pack Smart Digital
【65W PD Fast Charge】Recommended by the well-known media Polygon as a portable battery for ASUS ROG ALLY. 65W USB-C port provides enough power to charge a laptop at full speed, this power bank charge a macbook pro 13” from 0% to 50% in just 56 mins with the included USB-C to C cable, perfect for bussiness trip or outside. 【5-output+3-input】T
his multi-functional portable charger power bank can charge 3-5 devices simultaneously, the USB-C port support input 60w max, use a pd 60w wall charger(not included) to full recharge this 30000mAh power bank in only 2.5 hours. 【Super Large Capacity】30000mAh battery pack capacity provide 7 day of worry-free power to charges 6 times for
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Baseus for MagSafe Portable Charger 10000mAh Bundle Portable Charger 30000
【65W PD Fast Charge】Recommended by the well-known media Polygon as a portable battery for ASUS ROG ALLY. 65W USB-C port provides enough power to charge a laptop at full speed, this power bank charge a macbook pro 13” from 0% to 50% in just 56 mins with the included USB-C to C cable, perfect for bussiness trip or outside. 【Super Large Capacity】30000mAh battery pack capacity provide 7 day of worry-free power to charges 6 times for iphone 15, samsung s20 ultra 4 times, ipad pro 2020 2.2 times, or provide a full charge to a 13 inch macbook pro【NOTE: It's a must-have for outdoor activities, business trips and power outage emergencies, high capacity so the product is a little bulky】
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