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Powerful. Cutting depth 75.5 mm. Tilt lock. Quick disk replacement. Key holder. Doesn't overheat for a long time. Quick change of carbon brushes. Branch pipe for the vacuum cleaner. Blowing sawdust. Backlight.
Product typecircularcircular
Typeportableportable
Power sourcemains (230 V)mains (230 V)
Motor
Engine locationtransverselytransversely
Power1600 W1800 W
No load blade speed5500 rpm5200 rpm
Cutting equipment
Bar/blade size190 mm210 mm
Bore diameter30 mm30 mm
Cutting depth65 mm75 mm
Cutting depth (45° angle)45 mm57 mm
Saw angle45 °50 °
Features
Features
 
LED light
In box
saw blade
saw blade
General
Noise level106 dB100 dB
Cable length2.5 m
Size311x240x261 mm332x243x277 mm
Weight3.9 kg4.8 kg
Added to E-Catalogmarch 2018december 2009

Power

Saw motor power in watts. For petrol tools (see "Power Source"), horsepower is additionally indicated, see below for details.

The higher the power, the better the tool is suitable for voluminous work and hard materials, the greater the depth of cut it can provide and the easier it can cope with significant loads. In addition, for different types of saws and different types of materials, the actual power values \u200b\u200bcan also be different. For example, a power of 2.5 – 3 kW is actually the limit for chain saws, but in chain saws this is an average figure, among such tools there are models of 3 – 4 kW and even more. Detailed selection recommendations for various cases can be found in special sources.

No load blade speed

The maximum speed of the disk, provided by a saw of the appropriate design — disk, cut-off, etc. (see "Device").

Note that most of these saws use gearboxes, so that the blade revolutions are much lower than the engine revolutions (see above). This achieves an increase in torque, which in the case of saws is often more important than the high speed of the blade.

As for the specific number of revolutions, it is first of all worth noting that only saws with the same disc diameter can be compared according to this indicator. In these cases, higher speeds provide better performance, but the trade-off is reduced torque; such saws do better with relatively "light" materials. Conversely, low speeds reduce productivity, but allow the blade to effectively "bite" even into dense, stubborn workpieces. More specific recommendations regarding the choice of a saw according to the number of revolutions of the blade can be found in special sources.

Bar/blade size

The largest tyre size (in chain saws) or disc (in circular saws and some others, see "Device") that is allowed for this tool. Tyres are sized by working length, rims by diameter.

A larger bar/wheel allows for deeper cuts but requires more powerful motors. Therefore, this parameter cannot be exceeded — this can lead to an overload of the engine with all the corresponding troubles. However, in many models with a disc it is physically impossible to install a nozzle with a diameter larger than the maximum allowable.

Also note that saws with similar bar/blade sizes may differ in maximum depth of cut (mostly due to differences in design or power). As for the specific dimensions, they depend on the type of saw (see "Device"). For example, large discs of 450 – 500 mm are found exclusively in stationary chain saws, the maximum figure for cutting models is 400 – 450 mm, for trimming — 300 – 350 mm, and sizes of 500 – 550 mm or more clearly indicate that speech It's about a chainsaw chainsaw bar. Detailed recommendations regarding the choice of a tool for a given size can be found in special sources.

Cutting depth

The greatest depth of cut provided by the saw.

In most types of saws (see “Device”), the depth of cut directly depends on both the engine power and the size of the tyre / disk. The specifications give a value for the maximum allowable size of the working nozzle; when using nozzles of a smaller size, the depth of cut, respectively, will be less. But in band saws, this depth is rather weakly related to the actual length of the tape — it is determined primarily by the length of the open section of the tape, which is directly involved in the work.

Anyway, the greater depth of cut makes the tool more versatile, but comes at the cost of weight, price, and electricity/fuel consumption. So when choosing, it is worth considering the real features of the planned work and the dimensions of the workpieces that are planned to be cut. As for specific values, the most modest tools provide a depth of up to 50 mm ; 50 – 75 mm is considered a low indicator, 75 – 100 mm is average, 100 – 125 mm is above average, 125 – 150 mm is already quite an impressive thickness, and the most powerful modern saws can have a cutting depth of more than 150 mm.

Cutting depth (45° angle)

Maximum cutting depth achieved when sawing at a 45° bevel.

This feature is indicated only for those models that are originally designed for sawing at an angle — for example, due to the special design of the attachment for the blade / blade (in stationary models, see "Type") or due to the inclined support platform (in manual) . The maximum angle of inclination of the saw in such models can be different (see below for more details), however, 45 ° is considered the standard option, so it is for this inclination that data on the depth of cut is given.

The general meaning of this parameter is quite obvious. On the one hand, a greater depth of cut allows you to cope with thicker workpieces and generally gives you more options; on the other hand, an increase in depth requires an increase in the size of the disk / canvas and an increase in power, which, accordingly, affects the price, dimensions and consumption of electricity / fuel.

Saw angle

The maximum angle at which the working part of the saw can be tilted relative to the vertical. It can be indicated not only for stationary tools, but also for manual ones — in the event that the design provides for a support platform. It is worth paying attention to this parameter if you have to deal with oblique cuts: making such cuts by setting the saw to a certain angle is much more convenient than adjusting this angle manually.

Features

Chain brake. A device that ensures the saw stops during the so-called. reverse kick. In accordance with the name, it is used in chain saw (see “Device”). Kickback can occur, in particular, when the very tip (toe) of the tire comes into contact with the material being processed. The bar and chain are thrown towards the operator, which can lead to injury. To avoid this, a chain brake is provided: during a reverse strike, it stops the saw almost instantly.

Anti-vibration system. Various design solutions that reduce tool vibration during operation. Strong vibrations, especially long-term ones, negatively affect the quality of work and condition of the tool, and also lead to rapid fatigue of the operator; The anti-vibration system allows to eliminate these phenomena to a certain extent.

Keyless chain tension. Possibility of adjusting chain tension in chain saw (see “Device”) without the use of special tools - wrenches, screwdrivers, etc. This function is especially convenient in light of the fact that during more or less long-term operation, the saw needs to be periodically checked and, if necessary, the chain must be tightened right on the spot - and this is more convenient to do without unnecessary devices.

Oil-free saw set. Saws that do not require additional lubrication of sawing equipment. Such models...are unsuitable for long, productive cuts and are suitable for minor work. But the absence of the need for lubrication greatly simplifies the maintenance of the device and “keeping it in shape.”

- Smooth start. A special control system used in electric saw (see “Power source”). Without a soft start, the electric motor “starts” very abruptly, which leads to jerking of the saw and creates the risk of letting go of it. In addition, when started in this way, the tool consumes high currents, creating a significant load on the electrical network. The soft start system allows you to avoid these phenomena: the electronics limit the starting currents of the electric motor, avoiding tool jerks and voltage surges in the network.

Electronic engine protection. A protection system that turns off power to the saw motor in the event of a critical increase in load - for example, when the disk/chain jams. Such systems are used in electric saw (see “Power source”). They help avoid damage to the unit due to overload. At the same time, we note that the electronic protection is reusable; after it is triggered and the problem is eliminated, it is enough to turn on the power again - and the saw can be used again.

Brushless motor. The presence of a brushless (brushless) motor in an electric saw (see “Power source”). Such electric motors have a number of advantages over traditional commutator motors: in particular, they are more economical in terms of energy consumption, less noisy, and do not spark, which can be important in conditions of increased fire danger. The disadvantages of brushless motors are complexity and high cost.

Engine brake. A device that additionally brakes the engine when the tool is turned off. The engine itself (and, accordingly, the working attachment) after switching off can still rotate for quite a long time by inertia; the brake stops this rotation almost immediately, so you don’t have to hold the tool suspended for extra time.

Safety clutch. A device that protects the operator from sudden jerks, as well as the engine from damage due to a sharp increase in load. In such cases, the overload clutch disconnects the motor shaft, avoiding overload. Note that such devices can be either reusable or disposable - the latter are destroyed when triggered, and to continue operation you will need to install a new coupling.

Laser marker. A kind of “target designator” that allows you to clearly determine where the cut will go. To do this, a clearly visible line is projected onto the workpiece, the location of which corresponds to the location of the future cut.

Backlight. Lighting system built into the saw. This feature is definitely desirable when working in low light conditions. However, it can also be useful in bright external light: the place of work is often in the shadow (for example, from the tool itself), and without special lighting it can be difficult to work in such conditions.

Speed regulator. The ability to limit the rotation speed of the saw motor (and, accordingly, the speed of the blade). This function is essentially a smooth speed control; it is especially useful in cases where full speed is not required - for example, when working with soft materials that require delicate processing.

Maintaining speed. A function that ensures maintaining a constant engine speed (and, accordingly, a constant blade speed) regardless of the load on the tool. To do this, the tool’s automation regulates the output power depending on the current load: when the load increases, the power increases, when it decreases, it decreases. Permanent operating speed has a positive effect on both the quality of the cut and the service life of the blade and the durability of the entire tool.

Stationary installation. Possibility of installing a portable saw (see “Type”) in a stationary manner. Most often, this feature is provided in circular saw (see “Device”), and for a stationary installation such a saw is usually turned “upside down” and fixed on a workbench or other base - thus, the sole turns into an impromptu work table. In addition, there are reciprocating saw with a similar function. In them, a stationary installation means the ability to secure the saw directly to the workpiece using a clamp - this allows you to make an even cut without the need to hold the saw suspended and constantly control its position in your hands.

Water cooling (coolant). The saw has a water cooling system. In this case, we are talking about cooling the workpiece and the blade: water is constantly supplied to the cutting site using a special pump. Thanks to this, the heating of the blade is reduced, its service life is increased, the quality of the cut is improved and the amount of dust generated during sawing is noticeably reduced. The method of collecting water supply may be different: some models need to be connected to a water supply, others are equipped with their own water tanks. Note that water cooling is not required for sawing wood; but when working on stone, concrete and other hard and dense materials, it can be very useful.

Keyless blade replacement. Possibility of replacing the saw blade without using wrenches, screwdrivers or other special tools. In other words, to replace the blade, the user does not have to look for an additional tool - you can open the fasteners, change the blade and secure it manually.

Pendulum stroke. The presence of a pendulum function in the reciprocating saw (see “Device”). With this stroke, the blade, making a reverse movement, deviates slightly from the cutting line in the direction opposite to the teeth. This increases the cutting speed, reduces the heating of the blade and makes it easier to remove sawdust from the working area. At the same time, the pendulum stroke somewhat reduces the quality of the cut and is not suitable for curved lines. Therefore, this function is usually made switchable, and in some models it is also adjustable: using the switch you can change the amplitude of the pendulum.

Display. The display shows important information about the operating modes of the saw. This can be: current strength, cutting speed, number of passes, operating time, etc. The information displayed on the screen depends on the modification of the sawing tool.

Synchronization with a smartphone. The ability to connect the instrument with a smartphone or other gadget (for example, a tablet) via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. The mobile application can provide information about the condition of the saw: battery charge level, temperature, etc., and proprietary software often warns the user about the need to service the tool or replace parts. Some stationary saw support remote control from a smartphone (turn on/off, adjust speed, select operating mode, configure various parameters, etc.). Finally, the mobile application can be used to set a password for starting the tool or logging work performed.

Noise level

The noise level produced by the saw during operation. Note that this parameter is rather approximate, because in fact, the “loudness of the work” depends not only on the tool, but also on the material being processed and the characteristics of the environment. Nevertheless, the data given in the characteristics make it possible to assess the comfort of working with the tool. The lower this indicator, the less discomfort the noise will cause, and at high values, even special hearing protection may be needed.

Note that the noise level is usually measured in decibels, and this unit is not linear: for example, a difference of 3 dB corresponds to a difference of 2 times, 10 dB — to 10 times. Therefore, it is easiest to evaluate the noise level using comparative tables. Here is a simplified version of such a table for the range in which modern saws operate:

70 dB — loud conversation of several people in close proximity;
75 dB — a cry in the immediate vicinity;
80 dB — truck engine, mechanical alarm ringing;
85 dB — loud scream;
90 dB — freight car at a distance of 7 – 10 m;
95 dB — subway car at a distance of 7 – 10 m;
100 dB — industrial shop;
110 dB — tractor engine;
120 dB — demolition hammer, thunder from a close lightning strike (pain threshold of auditory perception).

Size

General dimensions of the saw. For a stationary tool (see "Type"), this parameter determines primarily the amount of space that will be required for installation; problems with this can only arise in very tight spaces, so in most cases the dimensions of a stationary saw do not need to be given special attention. In the case of hand-held models, the small size makes it easier to work in hard-to-reach places and improves overall usability. On the other hand, a compact tool inevitably turns out to be low-power; and some jobs by definition require large, heavy saws, with large bar lengths or blade diameters.
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