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Comparison Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO/2M Red vs THORENS TD 402 DD

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Pickup
ModelOrtofon 2M Red20 – 20000
TypeMMMM
Needle shapeellipticalelliptical
Output level5.5 mV4 mV
Downforce1.5 – 2 g1.8 – 2.2 g
Pickup weight7.2 g6.1 g
Tonearm
ModelPro-Ject 8.6 ccThorens TP 72
Typepivotalpivotal
Shapestraightstraight
Materialcarboncarbon
Tonearm effective length219 mm224 mm
Tonearm weight6 g
Design
Drive unitbeltstraight
Speed controlelectronic/automaticelectronic/automatic
Cover
Phono stageis absentswitchable
Features
Features
adjustable counterweight
anti-skating
 
 
speed 78 rpm
adjustable counterweight
anti-skating
auto-stop
autoplay
 
Connection
 
audio input
Specs
Frequency range
20 – 20000 Hz /+3, -1 дБ/
20 – 20000 Hz
Signal to noise ratio68 dB67 dB
Knock ratio
0.17 % /33 rpm, 0.15% — 45 rpm/
0.15 %
Speed deviation
0.5 % /33 rpm, 0.6% — 45 rpm/
0.33 %
General
Power consumption4 W3 W
Base materialMDF/FibreboardMDF/Fibreboard
Platter materialmetalmetal
Platter size300 mm300 mm
Platter weight1.7 kg
Dimensions (WxDxH)415x320x113 mm420x355x139 mm
Turntable weight6 kg6.1 kg
Color
Added to E-Catalogaugust 2021december 2019

Model

Model of the pickup (cartridge) supplied with the player. The pickup is one of the most important parts of any vinyl player, the quality of the received sound largely depends on its quality. Knowing the name of the model, you can find detailed data on it and determine how satisfied you are with this particular cartridge.

Output level

The signal level at the output of the pickup supplied with the player is, in fact, the power of the signal coming from the pickup to the phono stage. This parameter is necessary, first of all, in cases where the player is planned to be connected to an external phono stage: such equipment must be designed for the corresponding power of the signal coming from the pickup.

Downforce

The force of pressing the needle on the plate, which the complete pickup (cartridge) is designed for.

This force depends on the rigidity (compliance) of the needle: the greater the clamping force, the harder the cartridge, respectively, the less pliable it is. It is also believed that less pressing force wears out the record less, but it cannot be said that "light" cartridges are definitely better — there are many other nuances. So in fact, information about the pressing force of a complete pickup is needed mainly in case of its replacement. Usually, the pressing force provided by the arm of the turntable is regulated within these limits, so the new cartridge must also be rated for the same values of downforce — otherwise there is a chance that the turntable will not be able to correctly align.

Pickup weight

The weight of the pickup (cartridge) supplied with the turntable.

The weight of the cartridge determines the characteristics of balancing the tonearm to set the optimal tracking force. However, pickups in set are usually optimally compatible with the corresponding tonearms, so there are no problems with adjusting the turntable. But when buying a replacement cartridge, you should pay attention to this parameter: it is advisable that the new cartridge does not differ too much in weight from the old one, otherwise the tonearm adjustment range may not be enough for the correct balance.

Model

Model of the tonearm — the movable lever on which the pickup is attached — supplied with the turntable. The tone arm is responsible for the correct position of the needle and the accuracy of its movement along the grooves, which is critical for sound quality. Therefore, many music lovers try to clarify not only the general data on the tonearm, but also its specific features in each particular “turntable”; in order to be able to find this information, the name of the tonearm is given in the characteristics.

Tonearm effective length

The effective length of a tonearm in set is the distance from the attachment point (axis of rotation) to the stylus.

This indicator is important primarily for rotary tonearms: the longer the length, the lower the angular error, the smaller the discrepancy between the direction of movement of the track and the longitudinal axis of the pickup (for more details, see “Type”) and the lower the level of corresponding distortion. In addition, a longer length reduces the resonant frequency and reduces the likelihood of distortion. On the other hand, a longer tonearm turns out to be heavier, which requires certain technical tricks and can also negatively affect the purity of the sound. Therefore, a large length is not always a guarantee of high quality – you should also pay attention to weight (see below).

Tonearm weight

Operating weight of the complete tonearm. It is believed that this indicator should be as low as possible — in order not to create excessive pressure and to minimize the wear of the needle and records. On the other hand, a rigid pickup on a light arm can bounce on uneven records, and in general, such a discrepancy does not improve the sound quality. However, complete tonearms are usually optimally compatible with complete pickups; therefore, you should only be interested in compatibility when buying a cartridge of a different model.

Drive unit

A method of transferring rotation from an electric motor to a disc player.

Belt. Also known as "passion". In accordance with the name, such a drive uses a belt drive. Its main advantages are the uniformity of rotation combined with undemanding to the quality of electric motors, which makes it possible to achieve good sound purity even with relatively simple and inexpensive motors. It is true that passive players pick up speed more slowly and are unsuitable for special techniques like scratching; however, these moments are critical only for DJs, and in normal listening to music they do not really matter. But of the unambiguous shortcomings, one can only note the need for periodic (usually once every few years) replacement of the belt.

Direct. In turntables with this type of drive, the disc is mounted directly on the motor shaft. This allows for very fast acceleration and deceleration, as well as the use of various special tricks, making direct drive a DJ turntable almost a must. However, such a design puts forward special requirements for the quality of electric motors, since. any irregularities and vibrations noticeably affect the sound quality. Therefore, direct drive is rarely used in "audiophile" models — in the absence of obvious advantages over belt transmission, the design turns out to be noticeably more expensive.

Phono stage

A phono stage is a specially designed preamp used with vinyl record pickups. Initially, the sound on such records was recorded with a distortion of the amplitude-frequency characteristic, namely, with an increase in volume from low frequencies to high ones; this is due to the technical features of the recording process. Accordingly, the phono stage not only amplifies the signal to a level sufficient to supply power to the amplifier, but also corrects the frequency response, “pulling out” the bass and reducing the volume of the high frequencies. And the built-in phono stage allows you to connect the player to the power amplifier directly, without the use of intermediate equipment. However according to the characteristics, the built-in preamplifiers-correctors are inferior to external ones. Therefore, in some models with this function , bypass mode may be provided, which allows you to send a signal bypassing the built-in phono stage to an external, more advanced one. And also there are even vinyl players without a phono stage.
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